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John Cottingham [#15]The Return of the Sacred
John Cottingham is Professor Emeritus of Philosophy at the University of Reading and an Honorary Fellow of St John's College, Oxford. Renowned for his work on Descartes, moral philosophy, and the philosophy of religion, he has authored over thirty books, including *The Spiritual Dimension*, *Why Believe?*, and *Philosophy of Religion: Towards a More Humane Approach*. His scholarship bridges analytic rigor with a deep concern for the emotional and spiritual dimensions of human life.
His latest book is *In Search of the Soul: A Philosophical Essay*: https://press.princeton.edu/books/har...
In this episode, we explore Cottingham's call for a more 'humane' philosophy of religion—one that acknowledges the roles of emotion, ritual, and embodied practice in shaping belief. He critiques the overly abstract methods of contemporary philosophy and argues that genuine understanding of the sacred requires engaging the full range of human experience. We discuss how rituals and worship practices can be seen not merely as symbolic acts but as vital expressions of our search for meaning and connection.
We also cover the interplay between science and spirituality, examining how a scientific worldview can either harm or coexist with a sense of the transcendent. Cottingham shares insights on the human longing for the good and how this desire points beyond material explanations, inviting a reevaluation of the role of religion in modern life.
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0:00:00 - - Introduction0:02:59 - - Cottingham's Philosophical Journey & "Humane Perspective"0:06:39 - - Philosophy's Accessibility & Bridging the Gap for Non-Specialists0:12:38 - - The Starting Points of Religion0:17:19 - - Critiquing Scientism & the Need for a Broader Epistemology0:25:33 - - Grappling with Christian Doctrine vs. Science0:38:49 - - The Nature of "The Good": Platonic vs. Christian Conceptions0:49:10 - - The Necessity of Religious Practice0:54:17 - - Psychedelics and Spirituality1:04:05 - - Cottingham's Career Reflections1:08:14 - - Closing RemarksDr. Joseph LeDoux [#14]The Neuroscience of Emotions
In this episode, I have the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Joseph LeDoux, a world-renowned neuroscientist whose research focuses on survival circuits and their impacts on emotions like fear and anxiety. He is the Henry and Lucy Moses Professor of Science at New York University and director of the Emotional Brain Institute.
Our conversation delves into Dr. LeDoux's early work with split-brain patients, leading to explorations of consciousness. He shares his journey from studying humans to animal models, particularly regarding fear and anxiety. We discuss the nature of emotions, contrasting the universal, biological view with the constructivist theory. Dr. LeDoux emphasizes that while innate circuits control behavior, the conscious emotion experience is a cognitive interpretation influenced by personal narratives and cultural schemas. We also address attributing emotional states to animals, underlining the importance of distinguishing physiological responses from conscious experiences and the risks of anthropomorphizing animal behavior.
This episode is a deep dive into human emotion and brain functions, offering insights from a leading expert. Whether you're a neuroscience student, a curious learner, or interested in understanding human emotion complexities, this conversation is a valuable resource.
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0:00:00 - Start0:00:37 - Introduction0:03:05 - Nature of emotions: biological vs. constructed theories0:05:52 - Neuroscience of emotions and foundation with split-brain patients0:20:23 - Cognitive elements in emotions and the disconnect between physiological responses and conscious emotion experience0:28:04 - Role of biological neural circuits in emotional responses0:31:42 - Emotional models and how emotional experiences are based on interpretation and shaped by language0:40:24 - Attributing emotional states to animals and consciousness in mammals0:57:25 - Joseph's career, intersection of neuroscience and music, and his upcoming bookGregory Sadler [#13]Learning & Teaching Philosophy
In this episode, I talk with Dr. Gregory Sadler, likely the most influential philosophy educator. Sadler earned an M.A. and a Ph.D. in Philosophy from Southern Illinois University. He is the Founder of ReasonIO, a consulting company providing philosophy content, training, and consulting services.
He has reached impressive popularity on YouTube, and his channel has over 130,000 subscribers and 13 million views. He has helped me digest challenging thinkers with fantastic lectures explaining the main concepts while providing additional context and insights. His channel is an absolute gold mine for anyone interested in philosophy.
We talk about the process of learning philosophy, the importance of good teachers, considerations about translated works, secondary literature, philosophical biases, truth, and much more. It was a very engaging conversation and one of my favorite episodes!
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0:00 - Start0:56 - Introduction4:23 - Sadler's expertise and background7:08 - Sadler's journey in philosophy14:06 - Being a good teacher18:46 - Students from non-philosophical backgrounds21:02 - Stoicism, Sartre, and Nietzsche in Sadler's philosophy views25:03 - Importance of the original language in philosophical works38:08 - Death of philosophy49:19 - Trade-offs between primary and secondary literature59:29 - Philosophical biases and autodidactism1:06:20 - Intersection of truth in philosophy and religionShaun Gallagher [#12]Phenomology, 4E Cog-Sci & Awe
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Shaun Gallagher is the Lillian and Morrie Moss Professor of Excellence in Philosophy at the University of Memphis. His areas of research include phenomenology and the cognitive sciences.
In this episode, we talk about Shaun's background, the nature of phenomenology and cognitive science, the role of embodiment and action, and Shaun's research about the overview effect; the awe astronauts feel during spaceflight when seeing Earth.
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0:00 - Start00:23 - Introduction02:17 - Shaun's background in philosophy05:49 - Shaun's background in cognitive science07:24 - Interdisciplinarity and Cog-Sci10:27 - The paradox of phenomenology 17:32 - Scientific vs philosophical methods in phenomenology 21:32 - Cog-Sci as an example of the role of philosophy in science26:47 - Existentialism in phenomenology 32:25 - Embodied Cog-Sci and psychopathology 36:39 - Virtual reality for therapy 40:16 - What's 4E Cognitive Science? 53:35 - 4E Cognitive Science and Buddhism58:45 - Varela and Dalai Lama - Mind & Life Institute1:00:22 - Metaphysical tensions of Buddism and Western Science1:04:00 - Awe in the overview effect1:10:45 - Differences in present and future reporting1:14:40 - Background of the awe experience1:17:11 - Feeling of unity1:20:05 - Connections with psychedelic and religious experiences1:25:26 - Enactivist Cognition 1:31:22 - Critique of Heidegger of social cognition1:35:17 - History of embodimentGregg Henriques [#11]Revolutionizing Psychology
In this episode, I talk with Gregg Henriques about the problem of psychology and the solution he has been working on for 20 years. We covered the bulk of his theory in the first half of the episode, and in the second half, we do a deep dive into cognitive behavioural therapy, including Gregg's experience with it and some controversies in one of the major studies published about CBT.
Gregg Henriques is a Full Professor and a core faculty member in James Madison University's Combined-Integrated Clinical and School Psychology Doctoral Program. He teaches courses on integrative/unified psychotherapy, personality, social, and cognitive psychology. He developed the Unified Theory Of Knowledge (UTOK), which consists of eight key ideas that Henriques results in a much more unified vision of science, psychology and philosophy.
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0:00:00 - Start0:00:45 - Useless introduction0:06:00 - The enlightenment gap0:12:56 - The problem of psychology0:22:34 - Why evolutionary psychology can't be the answer0:32:15 - The tree of knowledge0:39:09 - Emergence and complexity dynamics0:45:57 - Comparing it to memetics0:50:08 - Justification hypothesis0:53:08 - Dan Sperber and Hugo Mercier1:01:41 - The influence matrix1:10:29 - Children social intellgience1:12:26 - Variation of the influence matrix1:18:47 - Connection with Haidt1:20:57 - Empirical backing1:26:47 - Cognitive Behavioral Therapy1:47:03 - Cognitive vs Non-Cognitive Therapy1:55:52 - Rigidity vs pseudoscience in therapy2:02:33 - ConclusionMichael Strevens [#10]Foundations & Absurdities of Science
Michael Strevens teaches philosophy of science at New York University. His work revolves around the nature of science, covering topics such as scientific explanation, complex systems, and probability. In his book "The Knowledge Machine" he explains why science is so successful at creating knowledge and why it took so long for humans to come up with it.
In this episode, we talk about the origins of science, philosophy of science, the contributions and flaws of Karl Popper and Thomas Kuhn, what makes science special and some odd contradictions at the core of scientific thinking.
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0:00:53 - Introduction0:03:19 - The origins of science0:08:01 - Karl Popper and Thomas Kuhn0:16:52 - What Popper and Kuhn were missing0:21:43 - Sociology of science0:25:49 - Contributions of philosophy of science0:32:42 - Bayesian probability0:35:08 - What makes science special?0:41:59 - The irrationality of science0:46:18 - Aesthetic and theological motivations in science0:48:43 - Caloric fluid vs kinetic theory of heat0:58:08 - Creativity in science1:00:14 - The tediousness of extreme detail1:04:49 - Can science make truth claims?1:11:32 - Philosophy of quantum mechanics1:15:49 - The biggest challenge of scienceNathan Dufour [#9]Music, Ancient Greece, and Whitehead
Nathan Dufour is a writer, musician, video artist and activist. He produces music videos on YouTube about philosophical ideas and teaches Latin language and Greek Civilization at City College of New York. He received a PhD in Classics from CUNY's Graduate Center.
In the first half, we talk about the relationship between music and philosophy, the performative aspect of art, philosophy's origins and how it connects to music, classics, and western civilization.
In the second half, we cover Plato and Whitehead, which was Nathan's PhD thesis. We discuss Whitehead's process philosophy, how it connects to Platonism, and some of the modern implications of Whitehead's thought.
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01:07 - Introduction3:37 - Who is Nathan Dufour?05:33 - Music and philosophy10:54 - Performance vs truth15:23 - Decay of modern art and hip-hop33:11 - What is classics?37:42 - Origins of Western civilization43:04 - Nathan's background47:31 - Misconceptions about classics50:13 - Middle-Ages history and information overload58:04 - Platonic forms1:03:55 - Timaeus book1:07:13 - Plato, Pythagoras and mathematics1:09:07 - Whitehead's mathematics and Platonism1:18:26 - Whitehead's actual entities1:21:00 - Interpretation of Plato1:24:42 - Lack of mysticism in Whitehead1:31:11 - The legacy of process philosophy1:41:03 - Systematic vs unsystematic philosophy1:45:33 - Sacredness and Whitehead1:51:48 - Conclusion1:54:09 - Music video: History of ScienceJuensung Kim [#8]The Science of Magic & Transformation
Michael Strevens teaches philosophy of science at New York University. His work revolves around the nature of science, covering topics such as scientific explanation, complex systems, and probability. In his book "The Knowledge Machine" he explains why science is so successful at creating knowledge and why it took so long for humans to come up with it.
In this episode, we talk about the origins of science, philosophy of science, the contributions and flaws of Karl Popper and Thomas Kuhn, what makes science special and some odd contradictions at the core of scientific thinking.
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0:24 - Introduction8:43 - Magic as an outgroup practice19:26 - The cognitive science of magic25:10 - Talent for magic32:27 - Shamanism and magic39:26 - Ancient and modern medicine47:21 - Embodiment and experience49:07 - Astrology1:00:33 - The importance of meditation and magic boundaries1:10:35 - The interplay of meditation, hypnosis and trance1:15:20 - Duality of psychedelics and the meaning crisis1:23:53 - Modern wisdom seeking1:30:12 - What creates the desire for personal growth1:38:19 - Psychedelics and personal aspirations1:44:16 - Replacing magic in modern society1:47:51 - ConclusionJohn Vervaeke [#7]Dialogos, Wisdom, and Science
John Vervaeke is the author of the famous YouTube series "Awakening from the Meaning Crisis". He is an Associate Professor at the University of Toronto and he is the director of the Cognitive Science program in the Consciousness and Wisdom Studies Laboratory. He has a vast body of scientific work related to consciousness, mindfulness, flow, and wisdom. In this episode, we cover some of John's life, the importance of dialogos, and the relationship between science and spirituality.
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01:21 - The origin of the Anagoge Podcast03:14 - What is dialogos and what has John gotten from it09:39 - Losing dialogos online and in podcasts16:03 - John's intellectual path in science and religion27:00 - Bridging the scientific and religious worldviews with wisdom33:40 - Participatory vs propositional knowledge from mystical experiences42:36 - The problem of self-selection within an ecology of spiritual practices48:24 - The lag of science for spiritual practice53:08 - Trade-offs from new conceptual vocabulary and the role of the imaginal.1:02:12 - Reaching John's intellectual milestone1:07:36 - Avoiding computation in CogSci programs1:09:53 - Appreciation of John's workJonathan Pageuau [#6]Religious Symbolism
Jonathan Pageau is a carver who specializes in Eastern Orthodox Icons and other traditional Christian images. He graduated with distinction from the Painting and Drawing program at Concordia University in Montreal and has recently gained popularity on YouTube by discussing symbolic thought from Christianity and its expression in modern culture. In this episode, we cover a bit of his personal history, early Greek thought in relationship to Christianity, what love means, how reality unfolds, and more.
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0:26 - Introduction2:42 - The early life of Jonathan as a carver and his religious journey10:22 - Philosophical background16:35 - Biblical scholarship20:32 - Plato and Aristotle's role in Christianity34:27 - The problem of perennialism44:30 - Love in Christianity47:55 - Logic, love and fractals53:53 - Problems with secular spirituality56:48 - Mystical experiences in Christianity1:03:17 - Movie and novel recommendations for symbolismAzim Shariff [#5]The Psychology and Evolution of Religion
Dr. Azim Shariff is a social and moral psychologist whose research focuses on morality and religion. He also has some more recent work on the ethics of automation and how people deal with the ethical dilemmas of self-driving cars. In this episode, we talk mostly about the psychology of religion through the lens of cultural evolutio
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1:44 - how Azim got into the psychology of religion3:11 - connection between religion and morality05:34 - competing perspectives on the emergence of moralistic monotheism14:09 - how do we define what is adaptive in cultural evolution?20:26 - adaptive value of micro and macro patterns of religious belief28:12 - religion's adaptive value over time42:20 - the aspects of religion that go beyond belief50:03 - cultural backgrounds that influence religious belief56:17 - the current scientific view of group selection1:04:29 - how religion detaches from traditional values1:14:06 - how religious people view the field of psychology of religion1:16:27 - conflict between science and religion1:21:29 - folk economics1:24:10 - bikini selfies and income inequality1:27:47 - paper controversy regarding religiosity, crime, and IQSteven Sloman [#4]Collective Knowledge and Overcoming Ignorance
In the 4th episode of our podcast, we finally get into some psychology. I had a very insightful conversation with Dr. Steven Sloman. He received his Ph.D. in Psychology from Stanford University. He is a cognitive scientist who studies how people think, particularly collective cognition. He wrote a book with Phil Fernbach titled The Knowledge Illusion: Why We Never Think Alone. We cover a fair bit in this episode, ranging from computational and alternative models of cognitive science, consciousness, his book knowledge illusion, the current age of information, the problem and reliability of expertise, and more.
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01:45 - computational and other models of cognitive science9:06 - the hard problem of consciousness from a cognitive science perspective18:00 - what is so special about Steven's book21:13 - what is the knowledge illusion31:57 - the evolutionary origins of the knowledge illusion35:56 - evolutionary psychology and the illusion of knowledge in hunger gatherers44:35 - the knowledge illusion with greater complexity and denser population50:20 - age of information56:32 - the problem of expertise1:00:45 - rescuing expertise1:09:33 - the illusion of knowledge in education1:12:13 - importance of group work1:17:24 - connection to Hugo Mercier's research1:24:36 - unconscious competition and motivated reasoning1:29:35 - long-term effects of exposition of ignorance1:33:14 - individualistic vs collectivist societies1:40:44 - culture differences of sacred valuesJ.P. Marceau [#3]Ontology, Mind, and Stories
In this 3rd episode, I had a great conversation with Jean-Philippe Marceau. He holds a degree in computer science and has done a master's degree in philosophy about panpsychism as a response to the hard problem of consciousness. We talk about materialism, ontology, emergence, neo-platonism, Christianity, and more.
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0:51 - JP's journey from mathematics to philosophy9:40 - Godel's theorems, cognitive biases and the myth of rationality13:36 - Ancient Greek thought15:58 - Brain division and propositional understanding17:51 - Worldview difference from modern science and ancient philosophy21:07 - Plato's theory of forms and its modern view22:17 - The problem of consciousness for JP's worldview change31:49 - The layman view of the mind problem34:30 - Arguments for panpsychism38:14 - How is consciousness unified?54:50 - The importance of metaphysics in one's cosmology59:55 - Kant's noumenal world and symbolism1:17:11 - The ontology of stories and how it affects reality1:31:08 - The abstract starts before the concrete1:36:21 - Christ manifestation as abstract and concreteDaniel Greig [#2]The Cognitive Science of Enlightenment and Mysticism
This is the second episode of the Anagoge Podcast. Today we have Daniel Greig. The goal of this episode was to lay out an introduction to what the idea of enlightenment means, and how does that relate to both contemporary cognitive science and ancient spiritual traditions. How does the feeling of finally figuring a sodoku a block connect to speaking to an Angel? You will find out!
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0:22 - Introduction2:15 - Psychedelic conferences9:00 - Psychedelics in culture13:32 - Cognitive science of insight19:15 - Neuroscience of insight20:53 - Naive realism27:46 - Transformation experiences37:45 - Wisdom and mystical states53:03 - The role of imagination1:07:46 - The cognitive continuum bookPeter Sjöstedt-H [#1]Morality, Psychedelics and Panpsychism
For our first episode, the guest was Peter Sjöstedt-H, a philosopher of mind with a special interest in metaphysics and meta-ethics based on Whitehead and Nietzsche. He is currently doing a PhD on the topic of panpsychism. In this podcast, we discuss psychedelics, panpsychism, emergentism, mental causation, epiphenomenalism, materialism, and more.